July 18, 2005
Surfing Tatooine's Beaches
I'll be back. In the meantime....
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Where the hell is every one? No, "Brilliant effing photoshop Rusty."?? Not even a, "Dude, you suck. Get on with your vacation already you big jerk!"??????
Posted by: Rusty shackleford at July 18, 2005 09:03 PM (JQjhA)
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How's this: for photoshopping over the first album cover of my band (Faith+1), and for the In-N-Out on the hill, you -- Rusty Shackleford -- can suck my balls.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 18, 2005 10:14 PM (LkvDS)
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Dude, you suck. Better now? By the way, Carrie Fisher is in my top ten movie babes of all time. That slave-girl outfit that Jabba had her in was SMOKIN' BABY!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 10:26 PM (0yYS2)
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Umm, Rusty...
Tatooine is actually a city in SE Tunisia. It has lots of beach, but no ocean. Lucas came across it--and obviously loved the name--as he was researching the underground houses in nearby Matmata, also obviously an inspiration for Luke's uncle's housing.
Posted by: John Burgess at July 19, 2005 10:46 AM (wiywb)
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I agree, IM, regarding Fisher.
Imagine my horror when I discovered that she's a hardcore feminazi.
:>(
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 19, 2005 01:38 PM (x+5JB)
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I have a feeling were now on tatooing anymore chewie
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Caption Contest Winner
The winner of the Blog Sabbath Caption Contest is....
Greg! (no wait, sorry, wrong paper, that's the Blog Sabbath Conspiracy Theory Contest for next week...ah here it is)
The winner is...
Russ, for ""Iron Chef French... Iron Chef English... Allez cuisine!""
(watch The Iron Chef on the Food Network...you'll get it)
Honorable mention:
Lakebear with:
"He closed his eyes and lost himself in the smell of brie and kippers."
AJ Strata for:
"Will you two whiney Europeans PLEASE SHUT UP!"
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like, i totally demand a recount because i didn't get a chance to participate...
JC: So, I don't get it. You're English, I'm French and we're both shorter than that Japanese guy.
TB: It's the hair.
Posted by: Editor at July 18, 2005 06:30 PM (adpJH)
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Hey - 3rd place, Excellent!
Posted by: AJStrata at July 18, 2005 09:21 PM (67DAA)
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Durbin abuse case not verified
Remember the gut wrenching speech by Dick (The Turbin) Durbin
Military investigators did not substantiate major charges of prisoner abuse contained in one FBI agent's e-mail that was read on the Senate floor by Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin as an example of U.S.-sanctioned torture at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The unnamed FBI agent wrote that she saw one al Qaeda suspect lying in his own excrement, that he had pulled out his own hair and that he had no food and water. The female agent also said he was shackled to the floor and subjected to loud rock music and to extreme temperatures.
Mr. Durbin, of Illinois and the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, read the e-mail June 14 in a speech attacking the Bush administration. He then likened Guantanamo interrogation techniques to the Nazis, Josef Stalin's prisoner gulag, Pol Pot and the internment of Japanese during World War II. He later issued an apology on the Senate floor.
That investigation was completed last week by Air Force Lt. Gen. Randall M. Schmidt, who commands the 12th Air Force, the air component of U.S. Southern Command, which oversees the 520-inmate prison at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo.
Gen. Schmidt wrote in his report, "Another FBI agent stated she witnessed a detainee short shackled and lying in his own excrement. The [investigation] was unable to find any documentation, testimony, or other evidence corroborating the third agent's recollection to this allegation or her e-mail allegation that one of the detainees had pulled his hair out while short shackled."
His statements were widely quoted by the Arab media including al-Jazeera. That is appropriate considering that both parties would be equally as likely to give America the benefit of the doubt.
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"The [investigation] was unable to find any documentation, testimony, or other evidence corroborating the third agent's recollection to this allegation or her e-mail allegation that one of the detainees had pulled his hair out while short shackled."
How convenient! (In my best 'Church Lady' voice).
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:35 PM (3D/yw)
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FDR gave the FBI jurisdiction over counter-terrorism in the Western Hemisphere and they're not at all happy with Gitmo. It doesn't surprise me at all that the FBI reports of prisoner abuse haven't been substantiated. The first thing that came to mind when they were leveled was inter-agency rivalry and turgf wars.
The agent who made the allegations should now be investigated.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 18, 2005 03:38 PM (RHG+K)
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Correction:
"His statements were widely quoted by the Arab media including al-Jazeera. That is appropriate considering that [all parties including Greggie] would be equally as likely to give America the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: traderrob at July 18, 2005 03:46 PM (3al54)
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Or maybe the investigation should be investigated. It could go either way Bluto.
Hey check out these cool keys:
ù § àò ç ì
These European keyboards are weird. There are 2 'Alt' keys, one is called 'Alt Gr' and there is no ampersand key, you make an ampersand by doing,
'Alt Gr' plus 'ç'
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:51 PM (3D/yw)
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Valarie "Wilson" Plame was probably on assignment with the FBI and was the woman agent who lied about the so-called torture of prisoners at Gitmo.
Or maybe it was Greg dressed up like a woman, or maybe Greg IS a woman. Was that you Greg who lied about his country? Lying seems to be Greg's MAJOR character trait.
Posted by: Knights Templar at July 18, 2005 04:25 PM (DDXXI)
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For what it's worth, I picked this appart fairly well early this morning. Check the trackback above if you're so inclined.
The FBI e-mailer was conveniently 'not available' to defend her claims to the investigation.
Thanks for picking this up, Trader Rob...you, me and Ankle-Biting Pundits sem to be the only interesting parties.
Posted by: USMC_Vet at July 18, 2005 05:01 PM (a2nLV)
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What? An unnamed source unavailable for comment, yet you doubt her? How dare you!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 05:07 PM (0yYS2)
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greg,
If the investigation is to be investigated I want the investigators of the investigation investigation investigated.
This was only going in one direction from the git go.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 18, 2005 08:34 PM (RHG+K)
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But first, we must find our political enemies guilty, and then find evidence to suit the charges. Isn't that how it's done in those third world shitholes?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 10:30 PM (0yYS2)
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Al Jazeera: U.S. Soldiers Killed the 32 Children*
Who was responsible for killing 32 Iraqi children lined up to get candy from members of the United States military? Al Qaida in Iraq claims they were
not at fault. Al Jazeera* has found out
who is responsible; the United States military (via
Ace).
Iraqi experts are saying that the recent car bomb that killed some 18 children was not the work of the anti-occupation fighters but of the U.S. occupation troops.
A traffic lieutenant who asked not to be identified said to a media source that U.S. solders crazily raced out of the street less than a minute before the explosion and that after the blast they did not return to the bomb scene but continued to hurry out of the area.
Yes, the United States military drove a car into a crowded pack of children and right next to other United States soldiers to detonate an explosive. Instead of yelling out "Allah Akhbar" they yelled "Git'r'done!"
Perhaps the soldiers were tyring to secure the perimeter or they were wary of a second attack as has been the case on several occassions? Nah, for Al Jazeera* it's better to go ahead and print conspiracy theories as truth only when that conspiracy theory damages the enemy. Logic need not apply.
*As alerted by The Commissar, Aljazeera.com is not the same as Al Jazeera the Arab media station.
Cross-posted at ITB
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aljazeera.com is NOT the well-known al-Jazeera, which uses aljazeera.net.
It may seem hard to believe, but aljazeera.com is even WORSE that regular al-Jaz.
This is worth clarifying in the post. (Unless the same article appears on .net)
Posted by: The Commissar at July 18, 2005 02:40 PM (BYgNQ)
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I did not know that. Correction is in the works.
Posted by: Chad at July 18, 2005 02:49 PM (Ievlo)
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Slightly off topic, but still about bombings.
London bomber made one-day Israel visit
"JERUSALEM, July 18 (Reuters) - London bomber made one-day Israel visit -
The government official said Mohammad Sidique Khan, who London police believe blew himself up on an underground train this month, arrived in Israel on Feb. 19, 2003, and left the next day. The official declined to speculate on reasons for the visit."
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18303603.htm
"But trust us, it isn't because he was working for Mossad or Shin Bet or anything like that. And you're an anti-Semite if you say he was, so THERE!"
My buddy went to Israel recently. He has a German last name, but is half Bengali on his mother's side. He got the full cavity search treatment (a free prostate exam, what a deal!). When I asked him why the hell he went to Israel in the first place, he just said he had always wanted to go there. I don't think he'll ever go back.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:15 PM (3D/yw)
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Also slightly off topic, but still about bombings. BIG BOMBINGS!
"Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario
Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IVÂ’s response to a nuclear detonation."
With the NORAD and FEMA "exercises" on 9-11, and the "terror drill" on 7-7, the announcement of a nuclear terror drill here in the US in August (coupled with the booga booga of an "Iranian nookular terror attack" flooding the MSM and the neocon blogs) should be a cause of concern.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:22 PM (3D/yw)
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And then there'as this:
"Top Chinese General Warns US Over Attack
Financial Times | July 15, 2005
By Alexandra Harney, Demetri Sevastopulo& Edward Alden
China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.
"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons," said General Zhu Chenghu."
KAPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
You all know that all this Mideast shit is just a warm up for the Big One with China and Russia.
Give me a war that actually reduces our National Debt and our Taxes and I'll support it. Why do they always have to be on my nickel?
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 04:12 PM (3D/yw)
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You know, for some reason I wouldn't really mind if it was the U.S. military who used the car bomb attack (even though it isn't even slightly true).
Who do these fascists think we are? Who do these fascists think the rest of the world are? People are much smarter than this.
God bless our troops. They need all the blessings they can get.
Tyler
Posted by: Tyler at July 18, 2005 04:19 PM (sfBcR)
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This just in: Osama Bin Laden once ate at a kosher deli, showing incontrovertible proof that Al Qaeda is a Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooish plot. In further news, greg is still a moron. No change is expected in his condition.
By the way greg, I called an old buddy of mine, he's a Jooooooo, and told him all about you. Big deal, right? Yeah. The thing is, he knows an old ex-Mossad guy who is now very interested in this blog and your comments, and has probably passed on a tip to some nice Jewish boys. You see, they watch people like you, and you probably now have a file in Mossad HQ. Mazel Tov, dipshit!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 05:12 PM (0yYS2)
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IM,
What you don't realize is that I'm NSA. I leak classified secrets to help right my country, which is no longer a Constitutional Republic.
I'll give that old fart of an ex-Mossad agent a second circumcision.
I'm watching you. We have a special mission for you. I can't tell you what it is, just be ready.
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 01:20 AM (3D/yw)
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Is it worse than Al-Pazeera aka the AP?
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 19, 2005 06:35 AM (TDFQ2)
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Greg the traitor claiming to have a buddy!!!!!!!!! What a bunch of crap.
IM: Refer them to me. I've got the idiots address, background, employment and anything else they need to know. Our tracker got him over month ago. That's why I can say he's full of shit.
The brotherhood has its uses.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 08:48 PM (CBNGy)
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Bunch of closet homosexual bigots.
All of you! Get a frickin' Life!
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Report: British Allowed Terrorists to Operate Freely Within UK
A new
report from Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) bluntly accuses British intelligence and counter-terrorist organizations of knowingly allowing Middle Eastern terrorist groups to operate freely within the United Kingdom. It directly contradicts
statements made earlier by Lord Chancellor Charles Falconer and characterizes the UK as a
base for international terrorism:
By the mid-1990s the UK's intelligence agencies and the police were well aware that London was increasingly being used as a base by individuals involved in promoting, funding and planning terrorism in the Middle East and elsewhere. However, these individuals were not viewed as a threat to the UK's national security, and so they were left to continue their activities with relative impunity, a policy which caused much anger among the foreign governments concerned. As a result of giving lower priority to international terrorism, the British authorities did not fully appreciate the threat from Al-Qaeda. The failure to gain any warning from existing information of the 9/11 attacks on the United States was an intelligence failure of the entire Western alliance, not only of the US intelligence community.
In other words, the report implies that the British were derelict in their duty by allowing radical Islamists within the UK to incite and organize violence against the West.
Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto, who apologizes in advance for any typographical eccentricities (first time using Movable Type).
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Report: British Allowed Terrorists to Operate Freely Within UK
Imagine my surprise!
See - Posted by greg at July 17, 2005 05:29 AM
on Mad Dog Vinnie's, "Caption Contest" String
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:42 PM (3D/yw)
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Um, greg, the report is accusing the British counter-terrorism agencies of being disengaged, allowing Islamist terrorists and supporters to operate freely. That doesn't gibe with the idea of agencies
so engaged that they are able to not only identify likely terrorists but put together a Rube Goldberg scheme that, quite frankly, the way you tell it, sounds like the lyrics to an Insane Clown Posse song.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 18, 2005 08:40 PM (RHG+K)
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Bluto,
I think you're on to something. Send me the music score.
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 01:23 AM (3D/yw)
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Just use the tune from
Bück Dich.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 19, 2005 11:33 AM (RHG+K)
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U.S. Treasury Department: Abdurahman Alamoudi Raised Money for al Qaeda in the U.S. – Revelation Called 'Stunning' (Updated)
Stunning you say, absolutely stunning. It can't be true, not THAT Abdurahman Alamoudi, the man who "portrayed himself as a “moderate Muslim” who served as a liaison between the U.S. government and American Muslims for two decades.
You can't possibly believe that a founder of the American Muslim Council (AMC), a Wahabi front, who played a key role in developing the Pentagon's Muslim chaplain program, who represented the State Department and attended meetings at the White House spanning two administrations, could possibly be an al Qaeda sympathizer and a terrorist.
However, on the other hand, remember what President George Bush said on November 21, 2001:
"If you harbor terrorists, you are terrorists. If you train or arm a terrorist, you are a terrorist. If you feed a terrorist or fund a terrorist, you're a terrorist, and you will be held accountable by the United States and our friends."
Well then, yes, I do think you'd have to refer to our "moderate Muslim" friend as a terrorist. Of course that means that either moderate Muslims can also be terrorists, ergo there are not really any moderate Muslims, or that Abdurahman Alamoudi wasn't a moderate Muslim and that his life as one was a subterfuge, and further, moderate Muslims can and, most likely, do indeed exist.
Well, I choose to believe that moderate Muslims do exist but that many apparently moderate Muslims choose to live a life of subterfuge in order to further the radical Islamic agenda, and that those Muslims, are not moderates but are indeed terrorists living among us who have and continue to attempt to, infiltrate our government and subvert our laws and culture to facilitate the establishment of Islamic law in the U.S.. A fabrication you say! Lets look at some facts:
First of all, the Northeast Intelligence Network, in it's article on the Almoudi revelation, writes:
(...) Pioneers in the research and investigation of Islamic terrorism such as Steve Emerson, Daniel Pipes, Bruce Tefft and others exposed the true nature of the “moderate” Alamoudi long before his arrest in September 2003 on multiple terrorism related financing charges. Convicted in 2004, the most recent allegation of Abdurahman Alamoudi raising money for al Qaeda while rubbing elbows with the Washington elite continues to boggle the mind of any reasonable person as it well should.
In other words, the fact that Abdurahman Alamoudi was a moderate in disquise, while really living a life of subterfuge and hiding the fact that he was a terrorist, should not have been a surprise.
But it's a fluke you say, just a fluke. A rare bad apple in the batch. I say that's nonsense!
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"Money for al Qaeda in the U.S. – Revelation Called 'Stunning' (Updated)
Stunning you say, absolutely stunning. It can't be true, not THAT Abdurahman Alamoudi, the man who "portrayed himself as a “moderate Muslim” who served as a liaison between the U.S. government and American Muslims for two decades."
He was probably working for AlCIAda.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:55 PM (3D/yw)
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A muslim, connected with terrorism? The hell you say!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 05:19 PM (0yYS2)
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WHISC - Fort Benning, Georgia - Terrorist Training Camp
Kahane - Catskills, NY - Terrorist Training Camp
CIA - Camp Peary, VA - Terrorist Training Camp
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 18, 2005 11:55 PM (ScqM8)
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Downing Street Moron: Doesn't know the difference between military training and terrorist training. But what's new there. He always has been a America hateing dumbass. Knew his true COLORS would come out.
Death to muslim supporters.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 08:39 PM (CBNGy)
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I'm a Mortal Human?!?!?!!
All is not right in the world. And on that note, exit stage right..........
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Gee, if I bothered to make the effort, I'd show the Jawa faithful my newly found status as a Smirking Chimp.
All is right in the world, the Ecosystem...hmmmmmm
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 18, 2005 12:33 AM (Kr6/f)
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similar situation noted here, along with a possible explanation:
http://gullyborg.typepad.com/weblog_archive/2005/07/evolution.html
Posted by: Gullyborg at July 18, 2005 12:55 AM (3oCCP)
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Well congrats anyway, at least for now.
Posted by: Jay at July 18, 2005 05:49 AM (wW958)
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Rusty,
I found the glitch. I'm getting hitched Thursday and my soon-to-be in-laws (all 10 immediate family of my fiance) are in town; trust me - all is NOT right with the world.
Posted by: Editor at July 18, 2005 10:10 AM (adpJH)
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Hey Rusty, check this out - http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/07/fatwah.html
There's a bonafide fatwa declared on Anarchangel for desacrating a Qu'ran. WOW!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at July 18, 2005 11:00 AM (LNA9X)
Posted by: slickdpdx at July 18, 2005 11:03 AM (MjGRu)
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Rusty,
I noticed scrappleface.com mentioned in your post.
I don't know if you know Scott Ott, the webmaster there. He's a good guy and funny as hell. You two should link each other if you haven't already.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 11:09 AM (3D/yw)
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Here's the video link - http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/06/team-infidel.html
Team Infidel rocks!
Are you jealous?
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at July 18, 2005 11:10 AM (LNA9X)
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Princess,
Are you being funny or did you just not scroll down page Jawa?
Posted by: Editor at July 18, 2005 11:41 AM (adpJH)
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My bad! Didn't scroll... :/
Yes, I actually take the time to read the posts!
Posted by: princesskimberley at July 18, 2005 11:53 AM (LNA9X)
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Yeah, my ecosystem status must reflect all of the loyal readers like Kimberly who, you know, don't actual READ the blog! ;-)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 18, 2005 11:58 AM (JQjhA)
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July 17, 2005
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday SUNDAY!!!!!!
Well itÂ’s Sunday again. IÂ’ve said before that I will do a Sunday thing so now I have to live up to that. First of all Howie is pretty much pooped. So bear with me I debated doing a post or not but I said I would so here goes.
Not too far off on my 7/3 Sunday entry it was Thursday instead of Tuesday. Lucky guess huh? Been looking around the news outlets and the blogoshere this week. Pretty dull if you aren’t interested in “The Rove Affair”. Just what are they trying to drown out? Well it turns out quite a bit of good news in the world this week. The terrorists are on an all out blitz. See suddenly now the shoe is on the other foot. For a bit there it seemed that we were shooting ourselves in the foot every week. Mr. Murphy has gone over to the terrorist’s side for a bit. I’m sure he’ll be back now and then. I read yesterday of a push by the terrorists to take Baghdad. Every attack they kill like one or two soldiers and 20 to 50 Iraqi’s. Time is showing them for what they are. They now know they cannot win the political war and are resorting to trying to win now win big. The tool of terrorism has become a lead weight on their necks. That’s it boys shoot yourselves in the foot some more. Heck, even a Nigerian email scammer got time this week. Can there be any doubt.
I would not want to downplay the real feeling I had this week about a downhill run here. But a cornered animal is the most dangerous. The enemy has run himself into a corner and now people everywhere are starting to turn against him. Britain is going to become more active, Muslims themselves are turning away from bombing innocents to a certain extent knowing the evil is just too obvious to deny any longer. Yes a good battle for the hearts and minds this week. We've won that one this month so far. Feels good. I see President Bush is allowing aid Directly to Palestine and they are right now being tested to see if they can make it work. Things have been going well there and terrorist groups who get their power from the conflict are trying to stop it. Israel is also stepping up its pressure. I hope the Palestinian Authority can prevail here the wind seems right. My fear is that too much Israeli pressure plays into the terroristÂ’s strategy.
Got some links & stuff IÂ’ve saved up for a few days. Good and bad mostly good news followed by the terrorist shooting themselves in the foot again trying to take it back. DonÂ’t let them.
A good essay on Marketplace that IÂ’ve got to listen to again and learn more about by Stanford Unger. Some freedom of speech issues there to look into.
Also IÂ’ve been catching a good portion of 102 Minutes a book about the 9/11 hijackings that is so far pretty good. Still plenty left on Radio Reader. WKMS does streaming IÂ’m not sure how many steams they can do. The show airs weekdays at 6:30 CDT. Good book.
A fine example of how the world is getting harder for the enemy. Yes they are falling out of fashion because now at long last even our oldest and most fickle ally France yes can you believe it France is getting on board.
USS Neverdock has more on that one.
Yes Muslims too.
The economy is on the mend and dong well as is the Federal Deficit. Definitely not as fun as the Rove thing but vastly more important.
From my Illinois Republican newsletter.
"DEFICIT FALLING. The White House reported this week that the deficit is falling and will continue to fall due to strong economic policy, which has generated much higher than expected tax revenues. As a result, this year's budget will fall to $333 billion which is $79 billion less than in 2004 and $94 billion less than forecasted by the Bush Administration in February. The White House now expects the deficit to decline to 1.1% of gross domestic product by 2009. Currently it sits at 2.7% of GDP (RNC Research 7/15/05)"
Yeah I know but I used em last week too.
What does our enemy think about all this. Well they are really pushing. Up to 10 car bombs in one day. One attack I read of had two US dead and twenty innocents. They are letting off bombs like there is no tomorrow. I can see why. He has to win now and canÂ’t. So you are going to see more stories like this one from fear mongers ABCNEWS.
The Sadam Charges are OK but the Iraq bombing summary is pretty rough.
Also worth worrying about this week is Dictator Hugo Chavez. He has recently imported millions of guns for his military while at the same time moving to take them from citizens. This guy is consolidating power. Here you go YBP IÂ’m sure youÂ’re intrested.
"Venezuela's highest Catholic prelate on Sunday condemned President Hugo Chavez's rule as a dictatorship and urged Venezuelans to reject it in an attack likely to strain already poor church-government ties."
Given the desperation of our enemy I would think this summer we all need to keep an eye out. I check out the
Northeast Intelligence network every week or so. This week the chatter is pretty serious looking forward for the summer. Remember the enemy needs this one. If they have no spectacular success and the current tactics keep going like the London bombings or Iraqi bombings itÂ’s just a matter of time. They are loosing and are desperate to get it back. What a difference a couple weeks can make.
IÂ’ll be out Monday so guest posters are welcome as Rusty indicated. With my Master absent I can use all the help I can get. IÂ’ll be available by email this week. And you guys behave Mad Dog is watching. IÂ’m such a push over and he isnÂ’t. Have a great week IÂ’ll be back now and then and on Wednesday. With Rusty out IÂ’ll try and keep an eye on things. Time for a glass of that fine wine I made. Yes the little woman and I are going to have a glass.
I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Yes guys feel free to add to that one in comments. Be good.
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Thanks for the Venezuela story, Howie.
Enjoy that wine!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 18, 2005 08:57 AM (x+5JB)
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Chavez is bringing the oil wealth where it belongs - to the hands of the workers!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 18, 2005 11:56 PM (ScqM8)
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Downing Street Moron: Stupid assed commie. Back on de porch and wait fo de govment check.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 08:34 PM (CBNGy)
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I'm Opposed to Terrorism (Unless You're a Jew in which case it's 'legitimate resistance' and not really 'terrorism' at all)
What he said.
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I'm against all forms of racism, bigotry, etc. blah blah,
BUT Islam reminds me of the weeds I was pulling out on my lawn today. From a distance, it blends in nicely with the rest of the lawn and looks harmless. But when you get up close you can see how noxious and pervasive it is and how it's killing the good grass. I'm against racism,
BUT it's about time we start pulling some weeds.
Posted by: Carlos at July 17, 2005 07:30 PM (8e/V4)
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How is it racist to want to kill people who want to kill us?
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"There should be a clear distinction between the suicide bombing of those who are trying to defend themselves from occupiers, which is something different from those who kill civilians, which is a big crime."
I can probably count on one hand the number of suicide bombings in the entire world over the last several years that did not kill civilians. And I'm including those who detonated themselves too early.
Posted by: Don Miguel at July 17, 2005 10:29 PM (UAn5X)
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Wait, is greg in Italy to help draft the new "unless you're a Joooo" doctrine? Is he really in Italy? Hmmmmm... I think I'll send a tip to the Israelis, I'm sure the Mossad would love to have a chat with him.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 17, 2005 11:12 PM (0yYS2)
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Greg is in Texas.Just as full of bullshit as ever.
As an avowed racist I cannot understand how killing or removing an ememy is a racial thing. Weeding out the bad is not racist. Just who is the expert here anyway. I think we should send Greg with the muslim morons. Downing Street Moron should be sent packing also. Of course that one you could call racist. Anytime you say anything against a getto rat you are a racist.
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On Vacation
I'm leaving for my home-town of Los Angeles in two days. Don't know if I'll be blogging for the next three weeks. Maybe a post here and there. Maybe not. A lot depends on how much of my manuscript gets written. Schtoopid editors and their demands...
Anyhoo, I'll be mostly in the San Gabriel Valley and the occasional day spent with the homies in South Central. E-mail me if you want to get together for lunch or something.
Other than the personal type e-mails don't expect a response from me. If you want a post plugged I'll refer you to the care of my co-authors/guest-posters/biyatches who can be contacted here. Any one else who want to guest post let me know. Into their hands I have commited the keys of the kingdom
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They can be contated? Wow.
(And is that legal?)
/TJ
PS - have an excellent vacation, and hurry back!
Posted by: TJ at July 17, 2005 04:01 PM (PL7dL)
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 17, 2005 04:19 PM (PRt3o)
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If you miss my e-mail, send one to me, please.
Posted by: ccwbass at July 17, 2005 04:57 PM (5aoiR)
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To the Kingdom? I thought they were the keys to your
VW, LOL.
Enjoy your vacation man.
Posted by: Tim at July 17, 2005 05:18 PM (dfgDS)
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normally I don't approve of this type of email, but it does give a certain point of view ...
ZAKARIA: “Shock and Awe” in London
Jul 09, 2005
Copyright © 2005 By Yamin Zakaria.
“God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war ... We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world.” (Martin Luther King, Jr.)
First, it (“Shock and Awe”) was displayed in Baghdad, and in response it was seen in Madrid and Istanbul; now it has come to London but on a far smaller scale. It seems we live in a world where the Anglo-Saxon civilisation, assumes the right to unleash their military forces on anyone, but expects everyone to howl terrorism, give minutes of silence, and stand shoulder-to-shoulder, when they face retaliation.
As expected everyone is howling and describing it as barbaric, an act of terrorism, attack on humanity etc. because the bombs were detonated in London not in Baghdad or Kabul! Otherwise I would have expected the same response for the 54 people killed in the wedding party in Iraq and many similar incidences throughout Iraq and Afghanistan by trigger happy US pilots and soldiers.
The US could not identify a wedding party of men, women and children despite being equipped with most sophisticated equipment and training. So, they are either trained monkeys short of brain cells or they were high on alcohol and drugs prior to engaging in combat missions, or they are terrorists that deliberately killed civilians. The latter is more likely, given that they have been following a policy of shoot first and ask questions later, so they bombed the civilians from a high altitude, then apologised for their ‘mistake’. That gets packaged and marketed by the media terrorists as collateral damage, a small price for the war on terror.
Blair and Bush referred to their noble work of discussing how to relieve poverty in the G8 summit (as if the West had no role in causing the poverty in the first place) contrasting that with the acts of the terrorists in London. Hence, Bush and Blair, both absolutely blameless, poor innocent victims! The G8 summit is actually facilitating the new scramble for Africa, lets face it, Capitalism and altruism does not mix together, they are opposites.
They (Bush and Blair) portray the attacks in London without any cause what so ever. Examining the ‘cause’ is an uncomfortable topic; it can be self-incriminating. A way to deflect discussing the ‘cause’ is to say that examining the cause gives some sort of justification to the attackers. Well, do we not need to understand and debate their grievances even if we do not agree with their action?
What is even more perplexing, is that the ‘man’ who is leading the war on terror from the rear or from his bunkers, George Bush, says: “The war on terror goes on” as if this incident is justification for the war waged in Iraq and Afghanistan. But, the problem is, the incident happened well after the war was waged. So, this is a bit like prodding someone with a knife and then when that person retaliates in self-defence that becomes the reason for the initial prodding.
If anything, the incident in London is the product of the initial aggressions in Iraq and Afghanistan; and rationally it cannot be its cause. Quite often terrorism and state terrorism depict the same cause and effect relationship; state terrorism is usually the cause, terrorism is the effect. Recognising this would go a long way towards brining peace and resolving the conflict.
An example of this cause and effect is the attack in Madrid. Spain was only attacked (terrorism as effect) when it attacked (state terrorism as cause) Iraq without any provocation in the first place. Iraqis did not harm the Spanish, the English or the Americans. When Spain withdrew, no further attack to date has taken place and it is unlikely to happen in the future unless there is a genuine reason once again.
Who Did It?
Now the basic question, who did it and why? Of course once you know who then why becomes self-evident.
It could have been the IRA but this does not carry the hallmark the IRA and they have been dormant for a while. The splinter group, the real IRA, do not have the logistical ability to carry out such attacks and since the Omagh bombing have self censured and been muted.
Theoretically, some may point to extreme French nationalists as the likely suspect for loosing the Olympic bid and seeing the Brits recently gloating by celebrating the battle of Trafalgar, not to mention reviving the old wounds of history from Agincourt to Waterloo. But this is unlikely. As Europe has learnt from the two world wars, the price of war can be heavy. Agreed, many might even find this point amusing.
Many of the sceptics, war opponents and many Muslims may point to the CIA and/or Mossad as the likely parties, for carrying out such an operation for various reasons; to discredit their domestic opponents; justify prolonging their aggression upon the Muslims; building a climate to attack Iran, hence we may expect other attacks of the sorts.
The most likely suspects, as already pointed out by the media, are the Muslims – Why because they have reasons to retaliate. The reason is often not elaborated upon, usually hidden behind the labels of ‘terrorism’ and ‘extremism’. Anyway, the Al-Qaeda network comes to everyone’s lips. But nobody is prepared to utter that it could have been carried out by the relatives of those who perished in Fallujah, Ramadi, Anbar, etc. Let us not forget Hilla, where the British forces deliberately dropped cluster bombs on a civilian town maiming many, where there were no Iraqi or resistance forces present even before the war.
Why This Was Was Done (Motive)?
Blair referred to the ‘terrorists’ wanting to destroy their way of life. If that is the case, then why have they chosen to attack after all this time? What is the motivation for wanting to destroy your way of life? How does it benefit them? Is Blair suggesting that they are mindless serial killers like those walking the streets of America, just looking for victims! Hence, Blair is a Bliar, by his own words!
If it was an act of retaliation from the Muslims, then the reasons are obvious. It is partly vengeance and partly to make the citizens of the West feel the reality of what their governments are doing in Iraq daily, so that they might get up and do something about it. Like the Spaniards did to Aznar. Whatever the case, it has nothing to do with British way of life; all the Iraqis are interested in is freedom from occupation and justice for the crimes committed against them. Even Al-Qaeda did not demand from the US and UK to dismantle their way of life only that they want to see their lands free of occupation and oppression.
Condemn Or Condone?
To exclusively condemn this atrocity in London in isolation to everything else, is to condone the real and bigger criminals (Bush and Blair) sitting inside the G8 summit! For diplomatic protocol and niceties all the G8 members stood shoulder to shoulder. The Muslims moderates as usual cannot do anything else but to follow their masters or do what is fashionable and acceptable. However, where was that voice speaking out for the unprovoked aggression in Iraq, that has taken the lives of 100,000 plus to date, which, if balance were sought, would take around 2000 more incidents of the kind that took place in London?
If killing innocent people is wrong and heinous for the “terrorists” then surely it is also wrong for these governments to do exactly that, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which is worse killing innocent civilians without provocation or killing them in retaliation? Surely the former (aggression) is worse than the latter (revenge).
So condemn not the bombers first (terrorism as effect), but Blair who is the cause (state terrorism as cause). I work and live in London, if I fell victim to the acts of retaliation, I would put all the blame squarely on those who have caused this retaliation. After the initial rage diminishes hopefully everyone would see this point of view. Prior to the war like Madrid, London was never a target, nor was it ever targeted by the Muslims assuming they were behind it in the first place. You can be sure that when the British troops are eventually withdrawn the probabilities of another attack will decline but unlike Madrid it will not disappear as Britain has played a greater role in the war. This is why both Muslims and Non Muslims in the UK ought to reflect about the incident in its totality. The remedy should be sought by:
a) Calling for the removal of the British troops from Iraq.
b) Impeaching Blair and preferably handing him over to the International Criminal Court to be tried for his war crimes.
c) Denounce the US and its Ziono-fascist and the neo-cons, who are the real architects behind the war.
d) Encourage US to remove its troops or isolate US as a rogue state. If necessary, Britain along with Europe should be looking to build stronger ties with Europe, china, Russia and the Islamic world, looking for its long term future interests instead of short term benefits from the US.
e) Assess war compensation to Iraq, repaying this debt by helping the Iraqis to rebuild their society.
f) Denouncing state terrorism as well as terrorism of the individuals and groups. Recognise that state terrorism is usually the father of terrorism!
Copyright © 2005 by Yamin Zakaria
--Zaid Abd al-Shakur
"Whoever does righteous deeds - whether man or woman - and has faith,
We shall surely grant him a new life, a life that is good. And We will
certainly reward such people according to the noblest of their deeds."
The Holy Quran, 16:97
Posted by: Abdul Alhazred at July 17, 2005 07:00 PM (DoxEP)
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Los Angeles? Any chance to meet for some beer over good cigars?
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Blogger Gets Fatwah/Death Threat
I've
insulted,
desecrated,
blasphemed,
begged, and
pleaded for a fatwa for well-over a year now and how do the Islamofascist pigs pay me back? By giving this guy a fatwa!! I am soooo jealous of Chris Byrne of
The Anarchangel blog. The FBI contacted him a couple of days ago and
told him they had credible evidence of a plot against his life made on Arabic websites. In
the next post he warns whatever misunderstanderer of the RoP that had issued the fatwa that he owns a gun and will use it (
picture of said gun here). In
this post he reveals that the FBI told him that it was a
Palestinian terrorist organization in
Europe that had targetted him for
Team Infidel's Koran desecration work.
This is my kinda guy! How come I'm not on your blogroll, man? It would be kinda like getting a fatwa by association or something. And as the proud owner of the Flush the Koran blog and the originator of the Karnival of the Koran Krapping let me say how disappointed I am that no one invited me to join Team Infidel!! For that, I issue a fatwa on you Chris Byrne. A fatwa on all of you Team Infidel!!
Hat tip: Gaijin Biker, Ryan, and David Gulliver for caring enough about my fatwa obsession to e-mail me this.
On a related note I just received the following e-mail from CAIR. It looks like it will be another 8-10 weeks before I can desecrate the Koran again......
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There's your problem, Rusty. The Quran is only considered "holy" if it is printed in Arabic, as were the ones that Byrne and crew demolished. As soon as the Quran is translated, it ceases to be the "word of Allah", which, of course, begs the question, "what kind of dimestore 'god' speaks only one language?"
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 17, 2005 04:28 PM (RHG+K)
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Quite so... get an Arabic one, or it doesn't count.
Posted by: Kathy K at July 17, 2005 05:03 PM (PD84x)
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he sure is armed to the teeth....daym, all he needs is a bazooka and some claymores and he is set....i wish him good hunting
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 17, 2005 05:30 PM (5sR9u)
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I brought a Arabic Qur'ran back from my time in the Middle East. The people I gave to as a gift found it be a perfect support for the lower shelf of their coffee table!
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 17, 2005 06:33 PM (mQTvx)
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They make good coasters too, and if you get the kind with the high quality paper where the pages are real thin, they make good TP.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 17, 2005 08:50 PM (0yYS2)
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Despite what the other commenters have said...I think you got hosed, Rusty. Rip off!!!
Posted by: Feisty at July 17, 2005 10:19 PM (QBrm4)
Posted by: CDR Salamander at July 18, 2005 10:49 AM (PJ4Iq)
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Maybe someday the terrorists can learn to hate me too?
Maybe, in time. Maybe, in time.
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Tony Blair' Speech: Genius & Jawa Report Reader
Apologies to the Lord of Moons (aka, Allah) for breaking my Sabbath commitment today but Tony Blair gave a speech yesterday that literally had my jaw dropping. My wife was stunned that I used a profanity, something I never do around the house, when I said something like, "Holy shit, Tony Blair is the first politician I've ever heard who actually
gets it." And his speech was so close to
something I had just written the day before that I can't help but think that Tony Blair, or one of his speechwriters, reads The Jawa Report.
Here is the text of the most honest and amazing speech I've heard from a politician since 9/11. Not only does it correctly identify the war as one not against terror but against an evil fascist ideology but was also given with courage and conviction. Tony Blair's speech, in my mind, is right up there with John F. Kennedy's innagural in which he warned "every nation...whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
Text of Blair's speech. Read it all:
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The knuckledraggers at the Guardian should have Blair's speech tatooed on their sloping foreheads.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 17, 2005 05:28 PM (RHG+K)
Posted by: Howie at July 17, 2005 05:33 PM (D3+20)
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he may not be a genuis on the scale of Einstein but the man has balls and is the best friend that the US can have going right now....i hope this is the first and not the last sign we see that some politicians are finally getting the whole and entire picture on the war against these scumbag terrorist groups
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 17, 2005 05:34 PM (5sR9u)
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a great speech, but once again we are in denial that Islam is the problem. Muslims must re-create "the true face of Islam". Islam needs a reformation like that which happened in the 16th century for Christianity. Even "moderate" muslims are taught from their earliest moments to blame the jews for everything bad that happens...
Posted by: Mr. K at July 17, 2005 07:02 PM (u5efY)
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OMG, Tony Blair actually recognized Israel in a speech? He actually admits that the terrorists what Israel obliterated? Hmmm, I have a new respect for the man (but not that nasty Jack Straw, never for Jack Straw, he's one of the main reasons the UK is so damned socialist. No, nyet, nada, never to the Jack Straws, Galloways and Livingstones.)
The world needs another Churchill. (I'm afraid Mr. Blair just isn't Churchill quality even with that great speech .. sad but true.)
Posted by: Bubbe at July 17, 2005 07:14 PM (cbAi4)
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Mr. K is so correct. I believe Blair is a great man. A great and courageous leader. The best.
I just cannot understand his lack of conviction that the problem is Islam. The bombings are being done by RELIGIOUS fanatics. Mr. Blair seems to be dodging the issue. I cannot see the value of minimizing the issue. The friggin muslim morons are the problem. Same as they are a problem anywhere they live.
IS TONY BLAIR SCARED OF ALL THE MUSLIMS ENGLAND HAS ALLOWED TO MOVE TO ENGLAND. Is he ignoring the issue for fear of internal strife. If so he needs to call the British troops back tomorrow and get things straight in England first. Better than a slow death.
I still say massive deportations from Europe is the only salvation for Europe. The muslims will turn Europe into the same shit holes they came from.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 12:33 AM (CBNGy)
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You are a warmonger and an ignorant ass.
Posted by: Gil Bassak at August 05, 2005 12:35 AM (tBMSJ)
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How is it, some have wondered, that the Republican Party has been taken over by a relatively small band of radical ideologues who don't believe in democracy or honesty or any specific religion, but relentlessly flog the language of "freedom," "honor," and Christianity? How is it that people who run the government into deficit can campaign on fiscal responsibility? Or that people who campaign on a "pro life" position can be responsible for lying us into a war that has killed well over 100,000 human beings, nakedly advocate torture, and openly promote the death penalty in America?
Posted by: Gil Bassak at August 05, 2005 12:40 AM (tBMSJ)
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The Blog Sabbath Caption Contest.
Caption the above image. Winners announced on Monday. No, really. Winners WILL be announced on Monday. Who do you think I am, Rusty?
(image gratuitously stolen from And Rightly So!)
**Note: 10 page conspiracy theses totally off topic written by greg will be allowed on this post, they just won't be considered for the contest**
***Note2: If the winning entry has a blog, that blog will get linky love from all 6 blogs that I post on.***
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Tony, is that a horn sticking out of your head?
Posted by: greg at July 17, 2005 01:27 AM (33tsh)
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Moe: Remind me to kill you later
Posted by: Don Surber at July 17, 2005 01:51 AM (9dzVM)
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Junichiro Koizumi: c'mon Tony, hit him, you know you want to, and it ain't like anyone will stop you.
Posted by: KG at July 17, 2005 02:02 AM (s8D3V)
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In other news today, national leaders re-enacted a scene from world war 2 known as the good, the bad, and the ugly....
Posted by: Maobi at July 17, 2005 02:37 AM (VXOsA)
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"Iron Chef French... Iron Chef English...
Allez cuisine!"
Posted by: Russ at July 17, 2005 03:08 AM (utsLN)
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Tension was high between the leaders of Britain and France during one particular moment of the G8 when Jacques confused Koizumi for Camilla.
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Chirac: You may be unenlightened non-socialists with really bad cuisine, but at least you know how to wear your tie and you don't serve bait.
Blair: (Mmmmphh)And what's up with the Farah hair?
Koizumi: Ommmmmmmmm. Ommmmmmmmm. Ommmmmmmmm.
Posted by: JIm at July 17, 2005 04:46 AM (ponKd)
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Mad Dog Vinnie:"**Note: 10 page conspiracy theses totally off topic written by greg will be allowed on this post, they just won't be considered for the contest**"
Once upon a time, there were four muslims. They were born in Britain and were proud of their country. They understood the hardships thier families had endured to immigrate to England.
One day they were approached by British Security. "would you like to make an easy 100 pounds? We are testing security at the subway system tomorrow. All you have to do is carry these fake bombs and try to get on the subway without being detected.
You will all meet at point X and will then dispurse on these trains. But mums the word, OK? Sure said the 4 young men.The men gathered at the designated launch point, except one who was running late, and in so doing were caught on film. They bought roundway tickets and got on their appointed trains.
At some point, explosions were set off. People got on the bus that the fourth man was on and told about how there had been three explosions on different trains at points A, B, and C.
The 4th man on the bus realized that he'd been had. This was a set-up. He looked into his satchal and where as before the 'fake explosive' device had seemed inert, LED lights were now on as if it had become activated. He fiddled nervously with the bomb while anxiously awaiting for the bus to arrive at its next stop so that he could seperate himself from the satchal. He was observed by many on the bus as he fiddled with the pack. Before the next stop, the bomb
detonated.
We know the terror drill was real (See the Power's revelation below). We know they were running the drill at the exact same stations the bombings actually occurred.
We know that the accused bombers don't fit the profile of men ready to die for Allah. Indeed, it is reported that some of them were not particularly religious.
Yet we are faced with the strange claim that these men, one of whom had a new family, and another whose wife was pregnant, carried bombs set on timers and stood there waiting for them explode.
This makes sense ONLY if they thought they were carrying fake bombs as part of a terror drill. This also explains the nervousness of the man on the bus who had probably just heard of the real explosions and was starting to suspect that the fake bomb he was carrying might not be fake after all.
If these men thought they were committing suicide, why did they buy RETURN TICKETS ON THE TRAIN? Why did they pay for "pay and display" tickets for their cars at the parking area?
THE POWER'S REVELATION
Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
The transcript is as follows.
POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.
Mr. Power and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on the bombing' or anything of that nature for this to be of importance. The British government or one of their private company offshoots could have hired Visor to run the exercise for a number of purposes.
The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.
This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.
It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.
The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.
And they all lived happily ever after!
Posted by: greg at July 17, 2005 05:29 AM (re1iq)
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Chirac: "Tony, this is our perfect chance, let's give Sushi boy a haircut while he's sleeping."
Posted by: greg at July 17, 2005 05:36 AM (re1iq)
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Chirac: "Tonee,
mon ami! I am lookeeng at you sroo zees Japaneez guy's ears!"
Blair: "Amazing. I'm looking through his ears too, but all I see is a pile of
merde."
Posted by: McGehee at July 17, 2005 05:47 AM (S504z)
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Posing for famous French artist Pierre Beaumont; Jacques Chirac, PM Koizumi, and Tony Blair. Beaumont will use this image to create a non-American version of Mt. Rushmore in the French Alps. He will call his project
Le Silly Montagne.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 17, 2005 06:38 AM (mQTvx)
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In an awesome display of his jedi powers, Master Yoda unites the dark and light sides of the force.
Posted by: RicardoVerde at July 17, 2005 08:25 AM (b+HIl)
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One of these things is not like the others, one of these things is not the same...
One of these things refuses to see reality, one of these things is really quite lame...
Posted by: JACK ARMY at July 17, 2005 09:04 AM (L20+G)
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I hate it when Euro-prissies argue.... My head hurts.
Posted by: Rightmom at July 17, 2005 09:13 AM (aw48S)
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sniff sniff. did you fart? no, did you? no, did you?
Posted by: Carlos at July 17, 2005 09:24 AM (8e/V4)
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The Japanese Prime Minister, trapped between the smells of garlic and jellied eel, grows faint.
Posted by: D. Carter at July 17, 2005 09:44 AM (xT77+)
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Koizumi: Tony, you know he misplaced his brain cell, and I know he misplaced his brain cell.
Let it go.
Posted by: Dan Melson at July 17, 2005 10:09 AM (RBiOB)
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"I don't care how much it costs, Tony, I hate sushi, too."
Posted by: Dave at July 17, 2005 10:47 AM (btNg6)
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Okay Junichiro, you can take this. It's not as bad as the time you were trapped in the elevator with your mother-in-law. Just find your happy place. Think of something pleasant......like whale burgers. Mmmmmmmmmm whale burgers.
Posted by: Graeme at July 17, 2005 10:49 AM (lgmt4)
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He closed his eyes and lost himself in the smell of brie and kippers.
Posted by: Lakebear at July 17, 2005 11:14 AM (7EVyU)
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"Will you two whiney Europeans PLEASE SHUT UP!"
Posted by: AJStrata at July 17, 2005 11:40 AM (67DAA)
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I'm torn between Don Surber's and Lakebear's. I like Don's a little better, I think, but only because I'm a Stooges fan.
By the way, wasn't that the same idiotic screed greg posted yesterday to another thread? Are you going to let him start viagra spamming his stupidity? I have a proposal; let him post whatever he wants, but he must do so under the handle of Village Idiot. Also, other leftards and moonbats must be banned.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 17, 2005 12:07 PM (0yYS2)
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Brie and kippers is damned funny though. Damned funny.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 17, 2005 12:10 PM (0yYS2)
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As this hidden camera photo demonstrates, the men's room at the G8 was unusually crowded. Japanese PM Junichiro Koizumi, clearly uncomfortable with the situation, closed his eyes and prayed for it to be over quickly as Chirac and Blair jockeyed to share the urinal he peeing in.
Posted by: Alex Nunez at July 17, 2005 12:27 PM (9Au2i)
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Gluteus Maximus,
You smell of boar sex and have an ass imbedded with more bristles than a cactus.
When I finish my mystery novel and become famous, you'll be sorry.
Posted by: village idiot at July 17, 2005 12:32 PM (toB2a)
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Koizumi: "There's no place like home...there's no place like home..."
Posted by: colin macdougall at July 17, 2005 12:38 PM (y0ozH)
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Chirac: Someone grabbed my ass!
Blair: Mine too!
Koizumi: Ooooooooooooooo
Posted by: Mr. K at July 17, 2005 01:13 PM (EGX/e)
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Jacques: "Tony! I never realized your eyes were so blue."
Posted by: AbbaGav at July 17, 2005 01:33 PM (HN8fV)
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"Et suis non seulement j'allant au fart dans votre direction générale, je vais blâmer la nourriture britannique et japonaise de zee de me donner le gaz dans le premier endroit de zee, you farging iceholes."
Posted by: ccwbass at July 17, 2005 01:49 PM (2Cp7+)
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" . . . and all I said, of course, is that it is well known that all Japanese food is based on a culture of torture and the tentacle rape fetishes of that august nation's several million perverted chronic masturbators, and that the British would have died off centuries ago if the women hadn't grown
working penises and discovered they could reproduce with sheep, and everyone I know laughed uproariously when I said this, so I don't see why you barbarians can't learn to just be funny like we french . . ."
Posted by: ccwbass at July 17, 2005 02:05 PM (2Cp7+)
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Chirac: Tony, I used to have strong feelings for you, but our recent fights have led me to believe that it's time I move to my mom's house in the hills of Provence until things calm down between us.
Posted by: Feisty at July 17, 2005 02:32 PM (QBrm4)
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Chirac:"All I said was, that piece of Halubut was good enough for Jehova."
Posted by: Kstumpf at July 17, 2005 03:45 PM (8j/fY)
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if i just close my eyes and take some deep breaths i can go to my safe place.....
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 17, 2005 05:36 PM (5sR9u)
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*Correction to my entry. It should be as follows:
"As this hidden camera photo demonstrates, the men's room at the G8 was unusually crowded. Japanese PM Junichiro Koizumi, clearly uncomfortable with the situation, closed his eyes and prayed for it to be over quickly as Chirac and Blair jockeyed to share the urinal he was peeing in."
*I had left out the 'was' in the last sentence. Oops.
Posted by: Alex Nunez at July 18, 2005 01:29 AM (9Au2i)
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Mad Dog Vinnie:'**Note: 10 page conspiracy theses totally off topic written by greg will be allowed on this post, they just won't be considered for the contest**'
"A September 21 story by the Israeli Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counter terrorism, entitled "Black Tuesday: The World's Largest Insider Trading Scam?" documented the following trades connected to the September 11 attacks:
- Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these "insiders" would have profited by almost $5 million.
- On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again, there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance; Again, assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent "insiders", they would represent a gain of about $4 million.
- [The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher than normal.]
- No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.
- Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan Stanley's share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million.
- Merrill Lynch & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 12,215 October $45 put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day [a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill's shares fell from $46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by "insiders", their profit would have been about $5.5 million.
- European regulators are examining trades in Germany's Munich Re, Switzerland's Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a "double whammy" for them.]
On September 29, 2001 - in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by the major media - the San Francisco Chronicle reported, "Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data".
"The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors - whose identities and nationalities have not been made public - had advance knowledge of the strikes". They don't dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking."
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Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 01:53 AM (P8erW)
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Ahhhhhhhh, so Tony Brair and Jacques Chiirak.... I hold both your ding dongs in my tiny asian hands.... NOW JACK! TuRN YOUR HEAD AND COUGH YOU FROGGY BASTAAAAAAD!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 18, 2005 07:49 AM (yBHNA)
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US police pursue girl over stone
Maribel Cuevas speaks almost no English (pic: ABC News)
An 11-year-old girl who threw a stone at a group of boys pelting her with water balloons is being prosecuted on serious assault charges in California.
Maribel Cuevas was arrested in April in a police operation which involved three police cars and a helicopter.
She has since spent five days in detention, in which she was granted one 30 minute visit by her parents, and has spent a month under house arrest.
Her lawyer accuses the authorities of criminalising childhood behaviour."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4689459.stm
Helicopter? Police state, here we come. Would this have been treated in this manner had the girl not been Latina? I doubt it.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 11:05 AM (3D/yw)
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Ah so, I now pronounce you husband and flog (frog). May you riv happy alrays after. Prince may now wet kriss the flog (frog).
Or: Judging the wet willie contest between France and the UK was a mind boggling and rather sloppy event.
Posted by: Bubbe at July 18, 2005 11:07 AM (cbAi4)
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Chirac and Blair tell yet another member of the G-8 that the secret plot to dominate the world by the Tri Lateral Commission along with the Joos has been discovered by the busybody Greg.
Posted by: Brad at July 18, 2005 11:18 AM (3OPZt)
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Keep 'em coming, I'll be posting this afternoon!
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 18, 2005 12:27 PM (Kr6/f)
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Brad,
you left out the Illuminati and the Bilderbergs.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:30 PM (3D/yw)
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These contests are rigged! I never win and I blame the JOOOOOS.
Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:58 PM (3D/yw)
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Greg, you ever read the Naked Capitalists ?
Skousen was all hung up on the Bilderberg meetings.
Btw, I stopped at the post office last Friday and some LaRoush people had set up a table out front.
What do you think of him?
Posted by: Brad at July 18, 2005 03:59 PM (3OPZt)
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When is the big announcement?
Posted by: AJStrata at July 18, 2005 04:05 PM (67DAA)
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About an hour or so, I need a nap after work.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 18, 2005 04:18 PM (Kr6/f)
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Brad,
LaRouche is quite a character. Very intelligent, but I haven't quite figured him out yet. I don't know what to think at this point. He has some grandiose scheme to realign the world economy. He also claims 9-11 was a coup d'etet (which is how he came to my attention).
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 01:30 AM (3D/yw)
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That Greg asshole just keeps getting sicker and sicker and sicker.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 12:24 AM (CBNGy)
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Annoy another terrorist.
That last terrorist was so mellow check out his guy I saw on incoming comments Friday. He was posting on a thread about Al-ZaqueeryÂ’s website being taken down. Apparently weÂ’ve annoyed him before.
"U might have hacked good site ..but i dont think u could do all what u
wanna to do with anay site ..i give u a challenge .....
try hack this site if u could ...the bellow is a forum made by me
..but i make an open challege to u christians to do this ..ehheheheehe"
He left us these.
http://www.ekuverin.net/
from ali ghanim ali abdulla
saeed@hotmail.com
Wow. After looking over the site it’s clear that if this guy created it he is making an effort to sound like a moron here. It’s very slick, very innocent looking. The are several areas including an “Islamic corner”. Also it has a separate area for women that you must email the site master to get access too. Hmmm. I wonder what other areas might be there that don’t show on the front page. Hmm. Where’s all the Arabic text. Hmmmm.. I’m not sure what this site is but someone was calling our attention to it for whatever reason. Well I guess it does not matter I’ve got everything including the IP address where the post was sent from.
Be aware of traps, gentlemen and good hunting Pajamahadeen.
While I was too dense to link to the page this does link to the Jawa archive for August 2004. Then search for 08/22 I will also post most of the entry below the break.
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How many visitors do those sites get anyway? Not too many Internet connections in "terrorist countries". Only places to mock "Allahs bravest warriors" directly without going all the way to Skåne, Sweden. Or some Middle East country, whatever.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 04:57 PM (lGolT)
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I'll put our tracker on him but personally I don't care what a piece of shit muslim says. Normally we only use the tracker for finding terrorist supporters. So far this kids batting 100%.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 05:33 PM (CBNGy)
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IM looks like vinnie closed comments on the other thread. I'm fine thanks. Except for tall the work. Note I've been online kind of gives you an idea. Yuck. Sorry to hear that you have had a bad couple weeks my condolences especailly on the death in the family.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 06:35 PM (D3+20)
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I am working too hard can't type.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 06:36 PM (D3+20)
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I do not want to annoy them, I want them dead.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 16, 2005 06:44 PM (Z6yVb)
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I have signed our MUSLIM friend up for some info from the Mormans.
Dear Lord: Smite these bearded fuckers that need to be smoted.
Amen. If your will, will be done, send me no sign what so ever.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,,,,
Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 16, 2005 06:49 PM (xdqZV)
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lol Filthy you kill me says Howie as he chuckles and tries to stop laughing.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 06:56 PM (D3+20)
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Annoy Cheney this time?
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 16, 2005 07:44 PM (ScqM8)
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Sorry, Howie, I gave greg a warning.
Thanks for helping Jane out. Filthy, your services are required over at Armies of Liberation.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 16, 2005 07:49 PM (Kr6/f)
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No Vinnie it's your thread no problem. It's just I missed it curse work. Getting Oh so close come on baby go go go go. I want off this machine.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 07:56 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 09:02 PM (0yYS2)
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This is not a joke: BURN ISLAM BURN!!!
Posted by: burn:islam:burn at July 16, 2005 10:09 PM (dUsix)
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It's Time to Stick It to the Enemy in the GWOT!
Dr. Rusty,
There are several sites discussing they latest folks blowing themselves up and what may be the cause. In particular the Brits are beside themselves over learning it was homegrown 2nd generation youths who detonated.
Oh well - for more info see the discussion thread being led by Bill Reggio over at Winds of Change:
WOC Link
then follow the links to the other sites that have similar discussions. I linked back here re the dirty little secret that the Arabic men who sprang out of the desert can't seem to keep their hands off young boys.
Dr. Rusty I'm with you regarding these Jihadist sites need to be targeted. It's no big secret that the enemy uses the Net for command-control, recruiting, propaganda, and other evil purposes. The collective consciousness of the Jihadists is on the Net. Kind of like the Borg Collective.
They send messages concealed in the context of the photo or bury stuff in the meta files or steg them into the data files of the photos just like the kidde porn folks do. Gee I wonder if there is a relationship?
No big secret here however our alphabet soup agencies seem to have trouble getting enough translators to read the intercepts that look promising. Seems they have a tremedous backlog of backgrounds to do. Simple answer find Middle Eastern Christians who either speak Arabic or Farsi. No danger of them flipping or becomming counter-agents.
There are some good folks over at Internet-Haganah that patrol the net and attempt to squash or shut down these sites:
Link Here
They are always interested in learning about new sites. They continually pop up like the whack a mole arcade game.
This is war. Would we ever let the enemy gain air superiority over the battlefield? Hell No! But why are we giving them free run of CyberSpace? The Mad Mullahs of Iran and the Chinese (Our real enemy ala FOX Network's 24 Hours) are both actively blocking/filtering the free flow of information of their people. These tyrannitical regimes just can't have alternative points of view reaching their people. Seems the power of the "Big Lie" tends to fade a bit and they lose control of the people. Imagine that.
The last time I checked the following IT/IS giants are HQ'd here e.g. IBM, Intel, MS, Covad, Cisco, Motorola et al. Why the @#$% are we allowing these system blocks to remain. Aren't the US taxpayers paying for the US Military to provide an umbrella of security so that these companies can operate in reasonable safety and make a profit?
I'm also with you onthe idea of dealing with the GWOT as a law enforcement action is utter "Horse Pucky."
IACP's new policy statement
Posted by: Ron Wright at July 16, 2005 10:29 PM (bVQVY)
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Ron: Because Wal-Mart likes cheap Chinese goods to make more profit in order to open more stores in China.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 11:08 PM (CBNGy)
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I like paying 7 bucks for a 2 buck flashlight that used to cast 5 bucks and used to cost me guess what here it comes 7 bucks. Only now it breaks in 15 minutes.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 11:44 PM (D3+20)
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Girls only section
This section is dedicated for the gals of ekuverin. No male is authorised here. all lady members send a mail to gals@ekuverin.net to gain access here. imposers will be banned imediatly
haha those wacky Muslims even want to segregate their Bulletin boards!
Posted by: dave at July 16, 2005 11:52 PM (fsJ2z)
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I hope he died in extreme agony. and i hope he gets buried with a steak.
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Annoy A Terrorist
Armies of Liberation.
What an apt name. Over and over again, Jane Novak invades the nation of Yemen, not by force of arms, but with the power of 21st century instant communication.
Somewhere, Joan of Arc is smiling. So is the blog grandfather.
Despite what you've been told, the government of Yemen is no ally of the United States.
For whatever reason, the Yemeni government's duplicity has, aside from Jane's tireless efforts, so far managed to escape scrutiny by the world at large. It has to stop.
"Hey, bonehead, that's nice, how do we get to annoy the terrorist?"
Read this post from Jane.
Look for a comment by "Amin Al-Sharaabi." Call him names. Give him the verbal finger.
As an added bonus, he put his email in the comment.
And as I well know, Jawa readers love to email terrorists.
UpDaTe: greg, I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
uPdAtE II: I'm going with Dean on this one, if you have a blog, link and t/b to Jane's post. Let's give this a Technorati boost. And an ecosystem boost as well. The Yemeni government needs to be shown for the Islamotards that they are.
ETAdpu III: Apparently, the goat molesting little Islamotard wanna be jihadi's email is a dead one. Mine got returned. But keep those comments on Jane's post a-flowing.
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This OT, but pertains to your blog.
When on the Open Source Intelligence thread, you're directed to another
blog instead of back to your main page. Are you aware of this?
It's when the reader has clicked to read the comments on that thread
and then decides to go back to your main page that the misdirection
happens. If this other blog is associated with yours, the linkage
is sure screwed up.
http://jacklewis.net/weblog/archives/2005/06/new_corner_bann.php
Which opens a new window, leaving the comments page open on your
blog. Now if this is the way you planned this, it sucks. Because
getting back to your main page means either opening a new page
and either typing in the url of PetJawa, or using a bookmark.
Can this be changed? Or is your website being hijacked?
Posted by: quark2 at July 16, 2005 03:38 AM (Ftfex)
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My goodness that Charles is nice. Or else he likes reformers. Wither way, what a sweetie. I emailed him the whole explaination. And then checked like 1/2 hour later and there it was. The Liziods are a lovely people as well. I put up the TTLB link so they could see Im not joking about his traffice.
You would think by now the moronic Yemeni govt would know to leave al-Khaiwani the hell alone. I have the impression they dont like publicity. And then what do they do? The one thing that is guarenteed to make me crazy, mess with al-Khaiwani, my buddy.
So thanks bro (hahaha) and thank gramps if you talk to him at all. Let him know that it really makes a difference.
Posted by: Jane at July 16, 2005 06:39 AM (ywZa8)
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Don't worry about misspellings, greg, because I'm currently trying to decide if I'm even going to leave that comment in here. Mind you, I can't ban people, but I can edit/delete comments on my posts at will. I'll think about it, maybe let this drivel hang here for a while so more people can see what a dumbass you are. Not that everyone doesn't know that already.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 16, 2005 07:18 AM (Kr6/f)
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Now I'm mad! You want to annoy terrorists - go to the White House and tell them to stop killing people and obey the law.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 16, 2005 07:30 AM (ScqM8)
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It's a stretch but vinnie I have not read all that yet. Come on entertainment dude. tis a bit long though. let me start greg with a return ticket would be in order here the 9/11 hijackers all carried 1 way tickets. A one way ticket might raise the eyebrow of security I mean you are carrying a bomb. Extra attention would be avoided at all costs. You have to get everything right so any little thing you can do helps if you want success. Duped I doubt it. Well maybe I might get duped but to dupe four educated people from 18 to 30 not likely.
Next.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 09:29 AM (D3+20)
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note the tone I took with greg and learn maybe if he's not mad at me.
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Yup, Greg has solved my question of how your precious oligarky stopped the whole army from attacking hijacked jumbojets that created the required tension to justify invasion of Middle East and gave a
(crappy) reason to keep military bases in Germany, Turkey and Saudi-Arabia.
Why on earth would anyone think hijacked planes can just fly where ever they want to undetected? Planes are like friggin' radio towers. Everything happening in the pilot space goes out of the plane and can be heard in every transmitter from amateur radios to flight control towers within 500 km and radars keeping track of the plane traffic
(should unless deliberately silenced/ignored to allow crashes) alert if the pilots stray from course.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 09:35 AM (lGolT)
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Good morning or afternoon finn long time no see.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 09:43 AM (D3+20)
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Wonder if the London attacks were meant to be the "destructive terrorist attacks in West-Europe or North America" to justify continueing war on terror. (http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/093104.php, the comment
Time to...)
If so, I'm sure it's CIA instead of MI5 or al-?????.
Oh yeah, ad on the side line:
"Do something most Congressmen have never done and read from the actual CAFTA document. Transfer of US authority for trade, labor and environmental laws to unelected and unaccountable UN affiliated bureaucrats is not "free" trade -- nor is political merger patterned on the EU"
First of all, taking power away from Usa is ALWAYS a very
very very very good thing.
UN needs more power, it is weak and meaningless if it can't control everything, and since CAFTA transfers power to the weak UN, CAFTA throws power away, which frees trade by reducing the powers controlling and sucking all the money away from it.
And the one about EU... Of course it isn't! It's just making sure Europeans can buy and sell European products to and from Europeans and Europeans alone and still make a good profit. Union spreads like the Reich in '41 and other market systems suffer more and more because they lose buyers and sellers as the Union Monopoly engulfs countries like Godzilla chomps Japs and Toyotas.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 10:05 AM (lGolT)
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Oh, good afternoon Howie.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 10:07 AM (lGolT)
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Okay greg, you've officially passed from leftard, to raving moonbat, to biohazard status. You are so stupid that you represent a danger to society. Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 12:12 PM (0yYS2)
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HEY GREG YOU RAT BASTARD. I'm busier that a one leggeg man in an ass kicking contest.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 01:21 PM (D3+20)
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Kick ass, Rusty. But do us all a favor, don't just link Jane's story, urge everyone you know to link it too. Let's boost this fucking story HIGH in Technorati and get as many eyes as possible on it.
Posted by: Dean Esmay at July 16, 2005 01:52 PM (Fs6IG)
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Greg the only nightmare you're part of is your own. You're a certifiable idiot, and I would really, really like to meet you.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 03:10 PM (0yYS2)
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He seems to be off somewhere else IM. How You doing?
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 03:17 PM (D3+20)
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http://photos21.flickr.com/25558642_d4ce1748db_o.jpg
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at July 16, 2005 03:27 PM (LNA9X)
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greg, I could care less about the words you wrote. However, there's a certain etiquette that you don't seem interested in adhering to.
If you want to do a blog post, greg, start your own blog.
Nothing in my post mentions either 9/11 or 7/7, and while quark's comment was off-topic, at least it was informative and helpful.
You have the rules for my posts now greg? Brevity is the soul of wit, and stick to the issues raised in my posts.
Next time, they're wiped off the screen.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 16, 2005 03:35 PM (Kr6/f)
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Thanks for asking Howie. I've been better, I've been worse. Had a death in the family two weeks ago, which is never easy to deal with, and the delayed reaction is starting to set in. I usually do yardwork or go to the gym when I'm feeling bad, but it's just too damned humid today to do anything sweaty, and my migraines have come back, so I'll be miserable for a couple of weeks. So how is your day?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 04:14 PM (0yYS2)
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greg just has to toss in the Birchers, the Rockefellers, area 51 and a few International Jewish Bankers and VOILA, he is full-press 60's Conspiracist Grandiose.
And Nicole Brown was murdered by a cabal of LAPD/CIA/Mafia types to "get OJ."
Earth to greg...X-Files was
fiction.
Posted by: Darleen at July 16, 2005 04:30 PM (FgfaV)
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Greg, I have refined my stoicism to a such a degree that I can mentally endure things that would cause most people a nervous breakdown, and I can gut a man like a fish while only being concerned about not getting blood on my clothes, but even I'm allowed to mourn a loved one's death. I am probably far from what you would consider human, though.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 04:34 PM (0yYS2)
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Hey, everyone has their happy place. Mine is an abattoir.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 04:54 PM (0yYS2)
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Who died? Terrorism involved?
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 05:01 PM (lGolT)
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Oh yeah, I need not know. Goodbye.
And same in finnglish:
Ou jee, ai niid not nou. Guutbai.
Änd seim in finglis:
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 05:07 PM (lGolT)
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You should not use the term "terrorist". The NYT has said it incites anti-Mulsim violence. Tey are "activists" who are trying to pay the US back for the many wrongs America has done to the world since Reagan was elected.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at July 16, 2005 05:37 PM (LbyCD)
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1st thought: Send Greg to Yemen.
2nd thought: Another example of Muslim rule. Who knows maybe they will kill each other off. Probably not, they breed like rats.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 05:46 PM (CBNGy)
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That Greg is one sick son of a bitch. TOLD YOU SO.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 05:50 PM (CBNGy)
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Magdy Elnasher
Here's some information regarding
Elnasher's life that is worth knowing. Magdy Elnasher was born in 1972 in Egypt.
1994
Graduated from Cairo University with a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry degree,
1998
Received Masters in Science in Organic Chemistry from Cairo University,
1999-2000
Studied chemical engineering at North Carolina State University,
2000-present
University of Leeds, UK, Postgraduate.
Elnasher's schooling has put him at the forefront of study in the fields of biological catalysts and
enzyme immobilization.
To refresh everyone's memory, enzymes are protein substances that act as triggers for various biological processes. So, Elnasher's expertise appears to be associated with seemingly mundane applications like improving water treatment facilities or manufacturing processes that rely on enzymatic actions.
With regard to my previously-stated bother, if Elnasher, as a terrorist, wanted to apply this expert knowledge, he could, but only in a convoluted manner. I believe that a biological threat could only exist if Elnasher was working out of his house or in a garage creating something nefarious. His line of study and work does not lend itself to anything other than access to chemicals and biologicals for easy theft. To put anything together, he'd need a lab - and time.
One other thing - Elnasher has some sort of link with the University of Graz in Austria which is associated with his biochemical work.
All in all, I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that there have been no reports of a laboratory being found in the investigation by the British authorities. Without one - somewhere - I don't see Elnasher's biochemical expertise being a threat right now. Of course, don't trust me. I'm just a guy with a computer.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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If he was studying it, I'm sure it could be put to use to kill or hurt people somehow.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 07:43 PM (0yYS2)
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Damn the rat bastard to the blackest depths of the deepest hell, for attending the same college as my father.
Posted by: The Sanity Inspector at July 15, 2005 08:21 PM (Kz9Kp)
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and this proves that many, not all, terrorists do not come from poverty, but have money to afford to get the best education....strange isnt it, they get an education from the very same Western cultures they want to destroy...just like a parasite that gets its food from its host as the parasite slowly kills its host...thats just how many of these Muslims are...parasites , as we , the West, are the hosts, thing is, will we let the Muslim terrorists kill us????
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 15, 2005 10:54 PM (5sR9u)
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Bush used to torture animals as a child, then execute people as governor and then wage illegal war as president. How many thousands of people have died in America and around the world as a direct result of his leadership?
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 15, 2005 11:08 PM (ScqM8)
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DSM, are you and greg trying to prove who is the bigger idiot? You're pretty stupid, but you've got work to do to catch up with him.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2005 12:17 PM (0yYS2)
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He is very smart. That is why he went to Egypt. They will protect him from the "Crusaders" in the UK. He is an as-hole but he is a smart one.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at July 16, 2005 05:40 PM (LbyCD)
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Egypt is a lot more afraid of Hamas than they are of the UK. He is not dumb. However DSM is! Or he is a lier. Hard to tell.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 16, 2005 09:12 PM (Z6yVb)
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Hey Rusty: How about a vote on who is the most deranged idiot. Greg or Downing Street Moron. Should get a chuckle. This would get far more vote than ban the Babeler.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 11:22 PM (V+tDH)
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Damn, It Sucks To Be Jihadi
It may feel good to be a gangsta, but in the rap world, it sucks to be jihadi:
IM FINNA DO IT YES I CAN IM THE MAN MY NAME IS BASSAM
A ONE MAN BAND I CAME FROM SAND AFFILIATED WITH THE TALIBAN
Read the rest.
Oh, a side note. The person that wrote the above worked for the Transportation Safety Administration.
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Yep, the scumbag was a TSA screener. And we wonder why we can't seem to make any real headway in the WOT. Islamofascists aren't half the threat to America that liberals are.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 06:56 PM (0yYS2)
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I would feel better about the moron if ignorance was not as dangerous as knowledge.
Posted by: Kstumpf at July 15, 2005 08:40 PM (hjE21)
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Is this any worse than much of the black rap out there? Where they call for killing police officers and white people in general. How can we fire one and not the other? I thought the law was supposed to the indescriminate?
Ya Ya! Bringing this FACT up makes me a racist. With pride I might add.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 12:13 AM (CBNGy)
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Is this any worse than much of the black rap out there? Where they call for killing police officers and white people in general. How can we fire one and not the other? I thought the law was supposed to be indescriminate?
Ya Ya! Bringing this FACT up makes me a racist. With pride I might add.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 12:14 AM (CBNGy)
Posted by: asdf at July 20, 2005 05:09 AM (LvI0k)
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I dont want to read this bullshit anymore
Posted by: John Male at July 20, 2005 05:14 AM (5nzQZ)
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Rusty from another mother
I was just surfing through bookmarks to see what interesting tidbits I could find. Some of you may have heard Rusty Humphries before. Well he got a call from a gentleman from Florida of Iranian descent. The gentleman says itÂ’s likely that there are terrorists in the US. How does he know??
Paraphrased quote from a caller on Mr Humpries show on 7/14/05.
“There are fifty new mosques in the state of Florida alone in the last 10 years. They preach hate there to the Pakistanis to hate us as Americans and I know because I’m an ex-Muslim”
Link to Mr. Humphries' site.
Look down a bit and click the Phone call from Cyruss link.
Updated:
Also while you are there check out the cool powerpoint presentation from Iraq on what our troops find there.
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Oh, that dang Cyrus is just a hate mongering Chr
iiiiiistian.
Posted by: Editor at July 15, 2005 05:07 PM (adpJH)
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So where's the PowerPoint presentation? I can't find it on the site.
Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 08:42 PM (YudAC)
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Nevermind. I finally found it.
Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 08:44 PM (YudAC)
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Oh cool a fatwa I think I just wet my dress.
for those of you having trouble with the finding the ppt presentation look on the left in the small print about as far down at the other link.
Posted by: Hoiwie at July 15, 2005 08:55 PM (D3+20)
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Another post to get rid of hoiwie
Posted by: Howie at July 15, 2005 09:04 PM (D3+20)
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This is such old news. Muslims have been preaching hatred in the American mosques for years. These are the same muslims that people work next to in city and state governments. These are the same muslims that liberal idiots protect saying what nice people they are. Yet, when alone with other muslims they turn into werewolves.
I cannot see why for reasons of national security these mosques cannot be bugged and evidence used to send them back where they came from.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 19, 2005 11:56 PM (CBNGy)
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Four More 7/7 Suspects Arrested in Pakistan
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the Pakistan? There's got to be
another Pakistan cause, the way I hear it, Pakistan is a moderate Islamic country. Oh, and despite the fact that an al Qaeda cell took credit for the mass-murders, the MSM is now reporting as
news that al Qaeda may have been involved. Brilliant.
MSNBC:
Meanwhile, officials have continued to expand their search to include the possibility that there was a link between the four suicide bombers and al-Qaida.
A police official in Faisalabad, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters Friday that "security agencies have picked up four people. They were taken to an undisclosed location, but we were not involved in this operation."
On a serious note, Pakistan
is our ally in the war on terror. Not because they are a democracy, but because they are not. If the Afghanistan invasion taught the Pakistani state one thing it was that cooperation with the U.S. against al Qaeda is the safe route to survival. However, the vast majority of Pakistanis support the work of al Qaeda and Pakistan remains a state which claims to derive its legitimacy from Islam.
More on the Pakistani connection here.
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Ah, good ol' Pakistan, they can't police their boarders because its not "under their control" and it's "tribal land" but they sure can occupy Kashmir with no problems at all!
I think it's time to turn the temperature up on both of our "allies" Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan for much more cooperation.
Posted by: dave at July 15, 2005 04:04 PM (fsJ2z)
Posted by: Editor at July 15, 2005 04:57 PM (adpJH)
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Rome wasn't built in a day, and draining a swamp requires dealing with its snakes and alligators, don'tchaknow? Most of the funding for terrorism still comes from Saudi Arabia, but we can't kill that golden goose just yet. This mess took a long time to make, now it will take even longer to clear up. I'd say that those being born today will still be fighting islamofascism and communism when we are long in our graves.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 06:04 PM (0yYS2)
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I would support sanctions against buying their gasoline if it meant we could get tough on Saudi Arabia.
My support for the war against terror doesn't stop at the Gas pump.
Posted by: dave at July 15, 2005 07:41 PM (fsJ2z)
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Yeah, that pretty much slayed me too. It's been splashed all over the MSM
(only one instance here) London suspects had U.S. connections. When in fact, as you read on, the "connections" are that one guy spent a single semester in college here five years ago, another's mother "may" have lived in Cleveland and he "may" have visited her there and a third "visited the US" once. NOW they're finally thinking about Pakistan? Give me a f***ing break.
And Pakistan is a necessary ally. A strategic ally. Not a "friend".
Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 08:58 PM (YudAC)
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Imagine fighting a war against Muslims without Pakistans support. You'd get a few nuke crates on your own continent. Imagine INVADING Pakistan. The whole world would be a big nuke crater.
Better be friends with Pakistan if you're not the guys providing their plutonium. But feel free to piss them off, no-one important likes or cares about Usacs anyway.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 09:13 AM (lGolT)
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Oyster, comoon. Why would terrorists attack England? The whole attack was Usacs work.
As long as everyone knows it's Muslims against Usacs, no-one really helps you. If stuff like London happens and proof that you did it isn't enough to nuke you, war becomes mostly white leaches of the world
(proud to be a part of this worlddestroying/owning/ruling übergroup using 80% of everything) against 3rd world Arabs, and then they would be really screwed, since violence and brutalities towards them would get no objections.
(Only people who really care about human rights violations and can publicly protest about it without injuries of any kind: lazy feminine people with personality issues that need to "help" meaningless people because of lack of own life in wimpy societies that submit to laws and rights (so the English/the French/Canucs/Swedes/Usacs))
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 01:04 PM (lGolT)
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found among the En..., not saying everyone of those peoples.
Posted by: A Finn at July 16, 2005 01:08 PM (lGolT)
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A Finn: How does it feel to be an insignificant from an insignificant country. Problems with little dogs is they bark without thinking. Careful, an ex big dog already lifted his leg and pissed on you guys.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 06:13 PM (CBNGy)
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Hey Finn,
Did you hear what Chirac said about Finnish food?
The worst in Europe. Sounds like even the French are pissin on yÂ’all!!!!
Posted by: Brad at July 16, 2005 09:26 PM (pO1tP)
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Male chicken of wierd color:
Same as being insignificant in any other country, so no different from any of you, except that better, since I have no reason to worry about anything, since nothing effects me. Italy or France have never ever ever been big. Rome was big, but Rome was the city, the emperors and later the Vatican, never "Italy". France... big in America, Africa and Asia way back when. Takes no effort at all to beat the crap out of defenceless arrows:swords:shields:'n:spears savages vulnerable to every possible European illness. And still they go their parfumed Chiracie asses kicked everywhere right after the monkeys teamed up or got guns. Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnever big in Europe. Only things "big" in Europe (not in some backwater retardolands) during these thousands of years of having a monkey-like creature populating it: Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, Rome, The Holy Roman Empire (Germany), Mongols, Russia, Imperial Germany, Soviet Union, 3te Reich (Germany again) and now EU (totally owned by Germans (Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg, Austria, Germany)). And EU is here to stay unless someone crushes it (do so, I won't, I like this mess).
And if you meant Russia, well, we slaughtered them and ran them out many times, burnt down their countrys Europe-side two or three times, gave a sanctuary to Lenin so he could cause havoc among them and slaughtered some more of them soon after. So they're covered in our piss as they lick their deep and painful wounds and try to piss on us from a distance now that we can't just rip their throat open because of this wimpy modern world. (Finnish Spitz is loud for a good reason. Poodle, husky, shephard, bulldog or Siberian wolf, don't matter, if the foe ignores warnings and gets too close, no mercy. A strong killer instinct and smells danger miles away)
Brad:
...Hah. That Napoolion III and the Italofascist Silvio have only eaten food from Finnish restaurants, which, due to record low visitors
(fastfood-spots, pizzerias and restaurants get the combined amount 5,4 million visits a month, which is only a bit over once a month for each Finn), mimic the pitiful, unfilling, foul-tasting, minimal rabbitfood rations made with foreign recepies and ways of cooking, so it's the same shit served everywhere else
(Well, not in Texas, where food comes in the right size portions: enough for 2-4 hours of enjoyable eating. Actually tastes good too, if one likes barbecue and chili sauce in everything. (was there for a few days, (one reason for not... well, doing whatever I do here), ate this and that, completely redefined the word "fat", learned that fiery hot chili is as uneatable as very malty mämmi, also noticed how all the chairs were heavy metal and helluva wide in public places ((Have you noticed that your beer has no alcohol in it and still tastes horrible?)))), but with cooks who have never gotten enough comments about cooking it, since no-one eats in restaurants often enough to bother commenting about "trivial" mistakes.
So they have never eaten any Finnish cooking, just foreign cooking cooked by Finns or foreign cooks working in Finland.
Posted by: A Finn at July 17, 2005 05:01 PM (lGolT)
Posted by: Sparky at July 17, 2005 06:08 PM (F1nba)
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? No 2? No 2... no 2... ? Oh, number 2. Completely different person, you think, or the same in a crummy mood? A Finn is the name for a Finn, so no-one can really claim it just for himself, unless he gets media monkeys attention.
Posted by: A Finn at July 18, 2005 04:24 AM (lGolT)
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A Finn: Months ago I told you to quit smoking cheap Russian pot. It's obvious you didn't listen.
If you whipped the Russians so bad how come they ruled your country for so long?
The only first I know of from Finland is the worlds ugliest female president.
Finnish Spitz is part cat and any of my dogs would have it for supper.
No worries about your EU. It will soon be run by Muslims. Anything the muslim turks wish, all the other muslims will scream for. A vote against anything turkish will be a vote against islam. The wogs breed like rats and without leaders like Saddam they will soon be the majority. So what Finland wishes really doesn't matter. The only thing that protects finland is its too cold for ragheads. Like all immigrants they only wish to live in the best places.
Quit smoking that stuff. It causes you to ramble incoherently.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 19, 2005 11:47 PM (CBNGy)
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Male chicken of unusual chickencolor doesn't seem to know anything.
0 I don't do drugs and all the pot in Finland comes from Holland. Also, thanks a friggin' lot for "liberating" Afganistan of the organisation that singlehandedly ended all drug production in the country that produced 80% of worlds heroin. Thanks to you, junkies have cheaper drugs now that they are returning to their normal lives again...
1 Russians "ruled" our country by letting us collect our own taxes and spend it all on our own and deciding everything ourself. The only thing they influenced was that we weren't Swedens infinite source of bloodthirsty, dreaded, vicious, merciless, out of control berserkers any more. The thing that actually caused us to disarm every Russian near our country, start supporting Lenins work and declare independence was that Russians tried to make us teach Russian at schools. (Already was, but since they told us to do so, suddenly we didn't wanna and chased 'em out.)
2 Of course it's the only first thing you know about Finland, you know nothing since you live in a bubble and everything you don't yet know has to be hammered in your head or burnt on your hand for you to know something outside your little world.
3 Thought you were a cat person. Well anyways, any Finnish Spitz could kill ten of any of your dogs.
4 Personally, I don't care. They can't survive here, so they might as well overrun everything else. Only Finns can exist in Finland, everyone else needs constant care to live here or they'll just wither.
5 No one gives a flaming chicken about EU rules and regulations anyway, so who makes the decisions doesn't matter. As long as there are nukes there will be no war between any people in Europe or elsewhere in or right next to countries that don't want to fight because their people are such greyroosters that they would have no chance against anything knocking hard on their door. And as long as NATO comes to Finland to make their troops fight our obligatory service noobs and looses every year like they do now, we know you suck and we can kick everyones ass anytime, since NATO (most of EU and Usa) is the second strongest military force there is. Right after Finland. How about a war? I'd love to invade you and everyone knows no one can use nukes or everyone does, that's the thing keeping world peace alive.
Posted by: A Finn at July 26, 2005 04:24 AM (lGolT)
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Pulp Nonfiction
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
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I don't know who this "the Lord" guy is, but it certainly doesn't sound like I would want to mess with him.
I'm just sayin'
Posted by: Krusty Krab at July 15, 2005 03:42 PM (iHszS)
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I am truly wrestling with my commentary for this post---- I know as a Christian I am called to love my enemies, but Lord only knows how filled with anger and rage I was after reading the article. 27 "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' lend to 'sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. Show me where you will find such a commandment to love in the Koran.
I am truly torn by this.
Posted by: kyer at July 15, 2005 04:30 PM (k32KA)
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couldn't "love thy enemies" have been mistranslated from "daisycutter thy enemies" ? After all those scribes probably did not have the word "daisycutter" in their vocab?
Posted by: dave at July 15, 2005 04:58 PM (fsJ2z)
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Two quick notes:
My passage is from the Gospel of Luke, while MDV's "passage" is actually a sorta a "collage", and a work-off of
Ezekiel 25:17 (Scroll down to "Jules' Bible passage" for the explanation)
Posted by: kyer at July 15, 2005 04:59 PM (k32KA)
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I was quoting Jules in the movie Pulp Fiction.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 15, 2005 05:18 PM (Kr6/f)
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I know, bro, I was just clarifying for those who didn't catch onto the "Pulp Non-Fiction" title.
Posted by: kyer at July 15, 2005 05:21 PM (k32KA)
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For some reason, your post made that phrase just pop into my head.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 15, 2005 05:23 PM (Kr6/f)
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You can love your enemies while killing them, you know. Just because someone forces you to kill them doesn't mean you have to hate them. God was smiting people left and right in the old days, but he loves us all, doesn't he? How can we be expected to be greater if even God gacks His enemies. I love my family, but if one of them ever comes at me with a knife, they're going down and not getting back up, and strangers can expect no better.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 06:01 PM (0yYS2)
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I'd forgotten that scene with Jules. If you can overlook who said it in the movie, it's rather moving.
Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 09:15 PM (YudAC)
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IM: I speak as a Christian, and IM (who, I believe, is NOT) is theologically right on the money.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 16, 2005 10:36 AM (eZCZt)
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IM's right. Christianity is just like The Force. You want to strike down your enemies without giving into the Dark Side.
Posted by: Carlos at July 16, 2005 11:33 AM (UWO6N)
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Note the Lord never says what to do if slapped on the other check after you offer it.
Posted by: Howie at July 16, 2005 07:36 PM (D3+20)
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And also note he only asks that we turn one cheek-- once-- not both cheeks ad infinitum.
Posted by: Carlos at July 16, 2005 08:46 PM (8e/V4)
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Meant to add this before--JP II and past popes have repeatedly spoken out and written about the dangers and evils of Marxism and Communism. And pacifism in all situations has NEVER been a Church teaching.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 17, 2005 10:04 AM (IHxV5)
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When a child I found that Franciscan Nuns with rulers were not pacifists.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 19, 2005 11:21 PM (CBNGy)
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People who try to find some limitation in Jesus's commandment to love our enemies remind me of people who try to hide behind various meanings of what the word "is" is. Obviously, Jesus is not saying, "Love your enemies unless ..." or "Love your enemies until ..." or "Try loving your enemies for a while and then if that doesn't work, kill them."
One of the previous respondents is incorrect in saying that "pacifism in all situations has NEVER been a church teaching." Some Christian denominations have long histories of pacifism. The fact that some other denominations have not embraced pacifism is arguably just one more example of how those non-pacifist Christians have ignored some of Jesus's teachings.
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